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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/25 20:12:59 (permalink)
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They remain hidden on only the first restart.
Second and subsequent restarts, Drawing Tools toolbar re-appears.
 
So, first restart all is well, second restart (while doing nothing else, just restarting second time) Drawing Tools toolbar returns.
 
This is a newly introduced bug in v8.16.02. It is not there in v8.15. Hope you can recreate this on your machine too.
 
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/26 07:34:11 (permalink)
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Indeed, you're right. Will see what I can do about it. But if you don't need that toolbar, why switch to Menu mode at all?
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/26 11:38:30 (permalink)
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Some ten years ago or so I made a personal choice to have a clean screen with just the screenshot in the first post of this thread. So completely clean screen with only what's in post#1 of this thread and nothing else. Just the most used functions that have their own icons and their own text description so that it takes me one fraction of a second to click on them instead of two fractions of a second. That kind of thinking.


If I may say, the background of your question is important. Freedom to customize is the holy grail of all applications. It was complete customizability of Firefox (not just security) that kept doubling its market share starting 15 years ago, and as much as they want to burry their head in the sand at Mozilla today, it is their taking away of customizations that much contributed to their current downfall (among other things).

So in every app the first thing some people look at is: how can they customize the program's functions. Freedom to customize with pretty icons play a *central* role in making a program popular... because the user all of a sudden thinks "they" had a hand in creating the program and they naturally develop loyalty to what "they" made and by extension loyalty to the program itself. Hope you just take this as user feedback.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/27 08:06:59 (permalink)
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Actually I don't quite understand what you mean by "Clean post", but if you don't want to see the big ribbon bar on the top, just small menu, your can minimize ribbon any time by clicking the small ^ button near top-right.
 
You may also customize the ribbon and the toolbar it offers (called "Quick access toolbar", by default showing in the title bar, but can be optionally shown under the ribbon). To customize both click the small button at the right of the quick access toolbar, then select "More commands". You may add/remove functions from existing ribbon, hide or add tabs to it etc.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/27 13:46:07 (permalink)
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If the starting point here is that there is no right or wrong, just individual user preference, then this would be my definition of clean for strictly personal use:
 
[image]www.c627627.com/IMG/Other/HyperSnapClean.png[/image]
 
That would be achieved if you can make it so that the Drawing Tools toolbar stays permanently hidden.
 
...and the most important thing is a custom icon/text set of buttons that I memorized after 10-15 years of use, which for that reason would be hard to give up:
 
[image]www.c627627.com/IMG/Other/HyperSnapToolbar.jpg[/image]
 
 
And all of this would be achievable if only the Drawing Tools toolbar would _stay_ permanently hidden when users deselect it. And stay open for those that want it and do select to use it.
 
So if I were a programmer, and a user wanted to set up the program to look in all sorts of "crazy" ways, it would be my priority to allow them, because that's what it's all about.., people customizing the same program to look the way it's most useful to them, because we all use computers in a very different way... I may not be correct, but customization is key for computer programs like yours.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/27 18:03:53 (permalink)
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With ribbon minimized and quick access toolbar shown below ribbon, with a few buttons added, depending on which "skin" you select:
 

 
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/28 01:27:19 (permalink)
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As you can see below, the buttons are microscopic, can they be made larger for Windows systems with custom sizing options?
Can there be an option to include Text description of the buttons?
Also, where are Capture Text Region and Text Scroll buttons? They do sometimes very much work. Thank you for your help.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/29 08:00:27 (permalink)
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Please tell me exactly what custom scaling you are using and how to set it the same way as you have on my computer. I can then try to figure out some solution.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/01/29 12:54:12 (permalink)
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Sure. You may not want to do this on a laptop but this is (just) an example of how people change scaling on high resolution display desktops:

• Windows 8: Right click on Desktop > Personalize > Display [lower left] > CHECK: Let me choose one scaling level for all my displays > Custom sizing options > 120% (or 111% max on Laptops without 1080p resolution) > OK > Apply > Sign out now > Log back in

* Right click on Desktop > Personalize > Display [lower left] > Select from drop down menu:
Icons 9 > CHECK: Bold > Apply >
Title bars 14 > Apply >
Menus 14 > Apply
Palette titles 11 > Apply


• Windows 10:
* Right click on Desktop > Display settings > [scroll down] Advanced display settings > Advanced sizing of text and other items > set a custom scaling level > 120% (or 111% max on Laptops without 1080p resolution) > OK > Apply > Sign out now > Log back in

* Right click on Desktop > Display settings > Advanced display settings > Advanced sizing of text and other items > Select from drop down menu:
Icons 9 > CHECK: Bold > Apply >
Title bars 14 > Apply >
Menus 14 > Apply
Palette titles 11 > Apply
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/02/01 10:53:59 (permalink)
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Sorry for the late answer. On my Windows 10, I don't have "Advanced settings" under Display settings, only custom scaling for all items. Its set to 175% and all appears to be fine. I don't have any option in the app to scale buttons on the ribbon. Maybe if you set a larger uniform scaling of all items, instead of setting separately larger fonts for menus and title bars, this would work correctly for you.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/02/01 18:41:37 (permalink)
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I do have all operating systems on my multi-boot and I updated my Windows 10 to Microsoft's latest Win10 build to test this. Just for information purposes and nothing else, this is the new way to set custom scaling in Windows 10:

* Right click on Desktop > Display settings > Custom scaling > Enter a custom scaling size > 120% (or 111% max on Laptops without 1080p resolution) > Apply > Sign out now > Log back in

Most people do not use custom scaling, some do, but you are correct that most do not.
Sadly, in their wisdom, Microsoft has now completely disabled custom sizing of Icons, Menus, title bars, etc.
Third party software / registry edits are the only way to do that on latest Windows 10 build.


Okay so, may I ask if you would consider at least one more version where Drawing Tools toolbar not staying disabled bug is fixed along side the old menu + toolbars, as this is the only way that systems with custom scaling can effectively make use of these old features.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/02/01 20:02:14 (permalink)
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I already looked at the old toolbar re-enabling, but it requires initializing it at startup (even if it never be used or shown), and then again the program gets slow, taking long seconds to even show the first screen. Don't see any way around this issue.
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Re:HyperSnap 7 menu icon resolution is lower than in HyperSnap 6 2018/02/01 23:51:12 (permalink)
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Okay thank you. So it looks like the last version that can use the old menu with Drawing Tools toolbar disabled is 8.15.00.
 
I would have to stay on 8.15 if I wanted to keep custom scaling, which I have to use since even my 23.8" monitor has a 2560x1440 resolution which looks excellent, but would be unusable for me without global Windows custom scaling.
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